City Of Mentor Receives Permission To Begin Deer Culling

Culling could begin as early as Tuesday in Morton Park

The city of Mentor received permission from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources to begin culling deer Friday.

And the city -- using Mentor police officers as sharpshooters -- may begin culling as soon as Tuesday in Morton Park, Mentor City Manager Kenneth Filipiak said.

The city has permission to cull 150 deer between now and March 31. It intends to focus its efforts on five specific properties within Mentor: Morton Park, Mentor Lagoons, Veterans Park, Black Brook Golf Course and the city-owned property around City Hall.

Filipiak said the city has been awaiting approval from ODNR and is ready to begin culling the deer population in Mentor.

"We have been ready to go for quite some time," he said.

Filipiak added that city could receive permission to cull more than 150 deer between now and March 31, depending on how successful the program is.

"If we find we're having success and think we need additional tags (for the culled deer,) we can come back to the agency one more time during this period," Filipiak said.

The city will take several steps to make sure the culling process is safe for the people of Mentor, Filipiak said.

First, the property where the culling is to occur will be closed off during the culling. Mentor police will cordon the entry points.

Then, the area will be searched by police and park employees to make sure nobody has inadvertently sneaked in.

Furthermore, the city will notify property owners who live directly next to the property 48 hours before the culling is to happen. That way, they will know not to access the culling area from their own property, Filipiak said.

Culling is just one part of the city's plan to manage the deer population in Mentor.

The program has five parts: educate the public on the dangers of deer overpopulation; get an accurate count of of the deer population in Mentor and its distribution; start a traffic-safety program that focuses on avoiding crashes with deer; legalize regulated hunting; and use sharpshooters from Mentor Police Department to cull deer herds.

Mentor City Council voted to legalize bow hunting last year (by a 5-2 margin) and, this hunting season, hunters have killed more than 100 deer in the city.

Filipiak previously said the deer management program will cost the city about $100,000 this year.

By using existing staff, the city of Mentor has tried to limit the program's cost, Filipiak said.

About $50,000 goes to pay the salaries of three part-time natural resource specialists in the Mentor Parks and Recreation Department who oversee the entire program.

Meanwhile, Filipiak expects the city to expend another $25,000 on equipment and overtime for police involved in the sharpshooting part of the plan.

Filipiak added that most deer culling would be done during regular hours but, sometimes, overtime might be necessary.

The final $25,000 would go to the cost of processing the culled deer.

Filipiak has repeatedly said the program is a long-term commitment and, if the city stopped trying to manage the deer population, the deer's numbers would quickly rebound.

Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:28 AM
Yes, I do. How shall we get a hold of ea. other? Can you send a friend request through FB? I'm the one with the thumbnail image of a buck dressed in camouflage bearing a rifle with a tied-up hunter hanging from it; I'm not kidding :)
Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:30 AM
Deer rights: IN addition to contacting me the way I suggested in my reply to your request for a more direct LOHV contact, pls., also check out C.A.S.H. (Committee to Abolish Sport Hunting). Contact C.A.S.H. and support them if you can.
Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:32 AM
Looks like the victors now hold the forum! Hunters can't out run deer, or animal rights activists :)
Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:42 AM
Just signed it, FB shared and sent emails to dozens. Did you include email address on the "edit petition" link to this? It's a good idea to include ALL city leaders' addresses, and then keep checking to make sure they don't mysteriously disappear, like mine did DOZENS of times when I created a change.org petition entitled "Abolish deer hunting in Ohio." Even the site managers couldn't explain it.
Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:54 AM
Add the Dept. of the Interior email address to your petition: feedback@ios.doi.gov AND add this email address for Ohio Dept. Natural Resources: james.zehringer@dnr.state.oh.us. BTW, did you know Obama's Sec'y to the Interior, Salazar, just left?
Lucy McKernan January 17, 2013 at 03:55 AM
Also, add Midwest FIsh and Wildlife Svcs. to the petition: MidwestNews@fws.gov
Ryan Tibbs January 17, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Just because you apparently don't have a job and can spam this thread all day doesn't mean you are a victor, it simply means you can't stop talking to yourself. Complain all you want about precious little Bambi, what's done is done and regardless of how you feel, this is a good thing for everyone.
SharEd January 18, 2013 at 12:18 AM
The deer are talking!
Leocadia Sigl January 18, 2013 at 01:00 PM
Lucy is not talking to herself,or anyone else,I'm listening.Ryan you sound like you have personal issues,just by the way you talk,if you hate the Deer,fine,just can't see why you talk sooo meanly about them,we have a Heart,and feel for the "Bambi" and always will.
a.adamic January 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM
I want this slaughter of the deer and bow hunting to stop because it is wrong.Every deer hater think we should just rid ourselves of the problem.Too bad the deer don't have rifles.I have read that the does could be steralized,and can be very sussessful,over time it has shown to be less expensive.My question is why don't we steralize the bucks?seem to me there are fewer of them than does?Bottom line we have to stop this killing.There are more humane ways to solve the problem.Write letters Lucy gave you some valuable info.If you want change make it happen.
Leocadia Sigl January 25, 2013 at 01:21 AM
Yes it is WRONG,watch the Video from in the Fall talking about the Bow Hunting,it's mostly older people who really hate Animals and the one guy seemed drunk talking about his Hostas,rabbits eat them too,protect if need be,DUH,..Kill Beautiful Deer cuz they eat your shrubs,sheeesh.every Lil critter out here needs to eat,the Squirrels eat my bulbs,oh well,get some more,lol
a.adamic January 25, 2013 at 04:16 AM
I agree.People who whine and complain about everything.They don't like anything not even themselves,so the animals are just one more thing in their way of being happy.Seeing the animals and especially the deer make my world more beautiful.All can agree there are a lot of them,but there is more humane ways to deal with them.Bow hunting and culling a not so bad word for slaughter needs to be stopped in Mentor.Its cruel and evil.Marn and Filipiak both said once we start we can't quit,yet they voted for it anyway.Am I crazy or am I living in a world that is?Why is Mentor wasting money on something that has proven not to work?Because they want to have hunting,or someone is tied to the hunters.Ohio dose not permit birthcontrol WHY because that would reduce the number of deer.Culling' slaughter' has a rebound effect and we have more deer than when we started.Wake up people you are being dooped.This is a million dollar industry in Ohio.Tax payers beware.We are looking at spending this money every year,the way they are slaughtering our deer at least every 2 years.South Mentoir look out you are going to be facing our problem as the develop your area.Help us we all vote become involved. Demand more humane ways to handle this.
a.adamic January 25, 2013 at 04:42 PM
Well another letter from the city again today.they are going back inro the Lagoons to kill more deer., I thought they slaughtered the 36 they proposed.I guess this really is an extermination of all the deer.Haven't you caused enough pain and suffering of the deer and the people?You are hurting the people of Mentor.How do we explain this carnage to our Grand children when we can't understand the senselessness of it ourselves?
Kacey Shea January 25, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Amen, Ryan.
Ryan Tibbs January 25, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Well, you could say it like this: "Well Johnny, the reason that the deer herd was culled was due to overpopulation. You see, when a herd outgrows it's environs, the deer have to compete for food. As this happens, the deer venture farther and farther away from their home in the forest. When that starts to happen, the risk of the deer being killed in car accidents rises dramatically. It also puts humans in danger. When they can't find food, they'll start eating yours and you can't have a garden or flowers. When you stop growing food or find a way to keep the deer from eating it, they starve to death. This takes weeks and is agonizing and a terrible way to die. So, in the interest of not only us humans, but the deer as well, we thin the herd and they bounce back and prosper because there's enough food for all of them." That should do it.
Ryan Tibbs January 25, 2013 at 04:53 PM
I don't hate anything, in fact, I enjoy the deer. Problem is, they're over populated and starving to death. I see it as a mercy to put them down quickly rather than let them starve to death, which they will. So, while all the bambi lovers talk about how cruel it is, those of us in the real world realize that while unfortunate, this is necessary.
a.adamic January 25, 2013 at 05:14 PM
Culling is one thing but this is not culling it is extinguishing.What part of rebound do you not get.We will have the deer back again and again.There are other cities in other states using sterilization and it works and is less expensive in the long run.Do you not get the reason rthe state will not give permission to cull without a hunting program in place.If you are so smart why hasen't that occured to you????????? Who's fault is it that the deer have nothing to eat? Could it possibly be ,irresponsible development of the land? Could it be the city knowing about a problem and doing nothing untill a panic response instead of a thought out solution to solve the problem in a humane way.Culling dose not solve the problem it justifies a reason to bow hunt in Mentor,and slaughters our natural resources.
Ryan Tibbs January 25, 2013 at 05:27 PM
"Culling is one thing but this is not culling it is extinguishing." No, it's culling. Normal population levels are 10-20 deer per square mile, Mentor has around 33 per square mile. That's 33% more than normal. Taking 150 or so out of the equation helps the deer survive, sorry you cannot grasp this concept. "What part of rebound do you not get" What part of THERE ARE TOO MANY RIGHT NOW, do you not get? Yes, rebounding CAN be an issue, but if the city manages the herd properly, there shouldn't be an issue like we do now. "We will have the deer back again and again." Back? They're not being eliminated down to the last deer, so they're not going anywhere. "There are other cities in other states using sterilization and it works and is less expensive in the long run." No, not it's not. The absolute LEAST expensive option is a cull. "Do you not get the reason rthe state will not give permission to cull without a hunting program in place.If you are so smart why hasen't that occured to you?????????" Uh, because it needs regulated? You don't want just any bubba with a bow to go around shooting things. Why is this even a question? "Who's fault is it that the deer have nothing to eat? Could it possibly be ,irresponsible development of the land?" Do you grasp the concept of supply and demand? There is a set supply amount, that can't really change, but the demand goes up the more and more deer that are born, ergo the supply cannot keep up.
Deer Rights January 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Ryan, Before you talk trash you need to request the culling plan from Mentor. It states to kill 322, and 113+ have already been taken by bow hunters. If you do the math, that is if you can, it come out to minus 18 deer in north Mentor. Let me spell it out, that is no where near 10 to 20 per square mile!
a.adamic January 26, 2013 at 02:01 AM
Ryan do not comment to me again. You obvousley have your own agenda.I do not like your personal remarks to the women,who are smart and well educated and know how to get their point across.so make all the coments you want.I have no intension of answering them.I have more important things to do and wish to talk to like minded people.you can do likewise,goodby....................................
SharEd January 26, 2013 at 02:41 AM
The large herds are eating landscaping bare, deer scat (impossible to clean up) is everywhere, and I'm concerned about deer ticks and disease. Fifteen years ago it was a treat to see a deer occasionally. Now there are three to a dozen or more out every day on residential streets and not sweet little Bambies. They don't back away from humans and some look menacing. Old timers have warned me that they can seriously injure people. I bet if someone's grandchild was injured by a deer, there would be a lawsuit so fast against the city for not addressing this real problem.
Leocadia Sigl January 29, 2013 at 01:07 AM
Shar Ed,..WOW,where the heck do you live,and what drugs are you on??...Seriously,go find another topic to address,you're not with it!!
Leocadia Sigl January 29, 2013 at 01:11 AM
There's more to it than you think,seriously!!...there's the Autopsies they are doing,and lots more.
Leocadia Sigl January 29, 2013 at 01:12 AM
So!...oh you're Rich and Hate to have your Petunia's eaten,that's too bad!!
Leocadia Sigl January 29, 2013 at 01:14 AM
You could also move,this is Mentor not Cleveland,Duh !!
SharEd January 29, 2013 at 02:09 AM
Leocadia Sigi -- Funny how people like you have to say things like "what drugs are you on?" etc. when you can't just say whatever you want not backed by any kind of facts. You can't take anyone disagreeing with your pie in the sky view of the deer population. Go up to one and have a conversation with it if you dare. . . Maybe one will knock some sense into you . . .
Leocadia Sigl January 29, 2013 at 12:11 PM
I have 5 at a time almost every evening,they are not causing any danger,if I was to say Boo,they'd take off immediately,I've stood many times talking to them,they seem to actually listen,you possibly are tormenting them in some way,and yes they might turn on you just like any Animal.My son a couple years ago was walking down the Bike path and an owner of a German Shepherd had the leash out too long and dog ran right up to my son and bit his leg,and that was a family pet.I think if people are this distraught about the deer,then just move,cuz there will always be Deer and other Animals in our World
Deer Rights February 04, 2013 at 02:18 AM
Leocadia, I live on a large wooded lot and have deer come by all the time. Never, I repeat never have they threatened me or caused me to be concerned for my safety. To show support for the deer of Mentor I am telling all my friends to display their Christmas lights until the KILLING STOPS! Pass this on to all your friends.
Leocadia Sigl February 04, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Oooops,I took down most of my lights,I'll just have to HOPE they quit it! I haven't been able to go to Veterans since they starting killing on MLK day,I know it'll bring tears to my eyes knowing that the Deer that would watch me as I would walk by,and I would stop and wave at them possibly are Dead.That was their home,they were comfortable there,how dare we take that from them,shame on those who killed them.
Leocadia Sigl February 05, 2013 at 03:11 AM
Deer Rights,did you think I was talking negatively?,I kinda thought you were calling me out,I'm on your side.


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